Batman and robin movie gay
The podcast that I co-host, The , will be looking at Batman and Robin this weekend. It is a fun discussion, successfully worth a listen, and I hope you enjoy. However, I had some thoughts that I wanted to get down before specifically about the film.
Batman and Robin is not a nice movie, by any stretch of the imagination.
However, it is somewhat unfairly vilified. This is particularly true in comparison to its direct predecessor, Batman Forever. Very few people would attempt to argue that either Batman Forever or Batman and Robin were good films on their possess terms, but the consensus seems to have formed around the idea that to paraphrase Edward Nygma Batman Forever was bad, Batman and Robin was worse. This calcified into the idea that Batman and Robin is among the very worst comic book movies ever, and Batman Forever is not.
It is interesting to speculate on why this might be. Batman Forever and Batman and Robin are both cynically constructed blockbusters aimed at the youngest and least discerning audiences, eschewing concepts like plot and characteri
Batman & Robin Director Weighs in on Perceived Lesbian Subtext
Joel Schumacher -- director of 's Batman Forever and 's Batman & Robin -- has addressed the latter film's perceived homosexual subtext. Schumacher, who himself is openly lgbtq+, has long been accused of projecting his sexuality onto the film (through such things as the infamous costume redesigns.) The director denies this, however, explaining it was never his intention and that perceived gay undertones had been a part of the Batman franchise well before he entered the fray.
In an interview with Vulture, Schumacher was asked about audience awareness that his two Batman films, Batman & Robin in particular, made the titular character "gayer." He simply replied, "If I wasn’t gay, they would never say those things."
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Schumacher was then asked if he believed this mindset came from a place of either homophobia or laziness. "You comprehend what I think? I shouldn’t have made a sequel, and that’s all there is to it," he answered. "I learned that
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Batman and Robin enjoy some downtime: a panel from World’s Finest Comics #59 ()
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Todays National Post contains an article an article Ive written examining the history of the rumour that Batman and Robin are gay. (like everything I note for the Post the article came along with an instant rebuttal, which you can peruse here. As a special treat for Sans Everything readers, Ive posted below the full-length version of the article, which has many details that didnt make it into the Post.
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Inside the Batcave: Intellectual Genealogy of A Rumour
by Jeet Heer
When Batman returns to the big screen later this summer in The Obscure Knight he’ll be joined by his familiar cast of secondary characters: Alfred the Butler, the decent cop James Gordon (soon to be a commissioner), the evil Joker. One character, however, will be missing: Batman’s familiar sidekick Robin, the Male child Wonder. In part this is due to the truth that the production focuses on the early years of the Caped Crusader. But it’s also the case that movie makers in general have been reluctant to b
Joel Schumacher was resolute: His Batman (portrayed by Val Kilmer and then George Clooney) and his Robin (Chris O’Donnell) were not gay. Nor did he intend to make winking reference to the way people had for decades interpreted the Dynamic Duo’s relationship as being especially dynamic and non-platonic. In an interview with Vulture that ran last year, the director who died at age 80 on Monday, said that not only did he never consider Batman and Robin to be gay but that if he weren’t gay himself, people would have never suggested that he made the superhero’s franchise gayer, particularly in his notorious flop Batman Robin.
You have to wonder, though, if Schumacher weren’t gay, would his film’s gaze have been so attuned to the male form, rubber-clad as it was?
This is footage from the opening sequence of Batman Robin. Immediately after the titles, it’s: “Holy bat-ass!” And bat-crotch! And bat-nipples! And then there’s Robin, too.
In a way, Schumacher’s denial of the film’s queerness allows it to function as queer-claimed films had traditionally. After the dawn of t